Comments on: πρεσβυτερος http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/ not another blog, v2.0 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:32:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/comment-page-1/#comment-2105 Chris Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:22:30 +0000 http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/#comment-2105 I'm sad that I missed this. :( The devil (my employer?) was pulling me into Sin City! hehe I’m sad that I missed this. :(

The devil (my employer?) was pulling me into Sin City! hehe

]]> By: Wayne Whitmer http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/comment-page-1/#comment-2102 Wayne Whitmer Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:31:05 +0000 http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/#comment-2102 Congrats Rae! May God use you mightily to advance His Kingdom! Congrats Rae! May God use you mightily to advance His Kingdom!

]]> By: Adam Winters http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/comment-page-1/#comment-2098 Adam Winters Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:30:09 +0000 http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/#comment-2098 Yeah, I knew where you stood, Rae. I just thought that cake was funny. That's the humor, I guess. I don't think I'd ever see such a cake topping in a Baptist church, regardless of if it is pluarl or single elder led. Very clever, nonetheless. I like it! Blessings to you in your ministry. Yeah, I knew where you stood, Rae. I just thought that cake was funny. That’s the humor, I guess. I don’t think I’d ever see such a cake topping in a Baptist church, regardless of if it is pluarl or single elder led. Very clever, nonetheless. I like it! Blessings to you in your ministry.

]]> By: Rae http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/comment-page-1/#comment-2088 Rae Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:10:37 +0000 http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/#comment-2088 Nope, definitely not the only one, Chris. I mean, since the PCA does make the distinction, I'll submit to it, of course. I'm not about to raise a stink over a point that won't make a huge difference in how things work day to day. Funny thing is that the PCA is "officially" a two-office denomination, but in practice, it's definitely three-office. I wish they'd either go ahead and say "we're three-office" or make the changes necessary to be a two-office denomination in more than just name. Maybe I should blog about this... Nope, definitely not the only one, Chris. I mean, since the PCA does make the distinction, I’ll submit to it, of course. I’m not about to raise a stink over a point that won’t make a huge difference in how things work day to day.

Funny thing is that the PCA is “officially” a two-office denomination, but in practice, it’s definitely three-office. I wish they’d either go ahead and say “we’re three-office” or make the changes necessary to be a two-office denomination in more than just name.

Maybe I should blog about this…

]]> By: Chris Hubbs http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/comment-page-1/#comment-2086 Chris Hubbs Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:59:09 +0000 http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/#comment-2086 The divide between Ruling and Teaching elders never did make sense to me. Glad to hear I'm not the only one! :-) The divide between Ruling and Teaching elders never did make sense to me. Glad to hear I’m not the only one! :-)

]]> By: Rae http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/comment-page-1/#comment-2082 Rae Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:55:55 +0000 http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/#comment-2082 Thanks guys! And Adam . . . I personally hold to a two-office view of church government. That is, the only church offices provided for in Scripture are that of elder and deacon, and that the bifurcation of the office of elder into "teaching" and "ruling" classes (with differing requirements for office) is unbiblical. Now, there's no doubt that some elders will be more gifted in expounding upon the Word than others, and those guys might receive the "double honor" (1 Tim 5:17) of remuneration from the church for their work. But . . . the prevailing thought that the "pastors" are the guys on staff who teach, preach, and administer the sacraments while the "elders" are laymen who make the decisions . . . that's got to go, in my opinion. They occupy the same office. Just so you know where I stand. ;) Thanks guys!

And Adam . . . I personally hold to a two-office view of church government. That is, the only church offices provided for in Scripture are that of elder and deacon, and that the bifurcation of the office of elder into “teaching” and “ruling” classes (with differing requirements for office) is unbiblical. Now, there’s no doubt that some elders will be more gifted in expounding upon the Word than others, and those guys might receive the “double honor” (1 Tim 5:17) of remuneration from the church for their work. But . . . the prevailing thought that the “pastors” are the guys on staff who teach, preach, and administer the sacraments while the “elders” are laymen who make the decisions . . . that’s got to go, in my opinion. They occupy the same office.

Just so you know where I stand. ;)

]]> By: Adam Winters http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/comment-page-1/#comment-2079 Adam Winters Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:44:45 +0000 http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/#comment-2079 As regards picture #1... Hmm, must be a presbyterian thing. ;-) As regards picture #1…

Hmm, must be a presbyterian thing. ;-)

]]> By: Chris Hubbs http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/comment-page-1/#comment-2064 Chris Hubbs Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:48:32 +0000 http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/#comment-2064 Awesome. Blessings on your ministry! Awesome. Blessings on your ministry!

]]> By: Hunter http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/comment-page-1/#comment-2049 Hunter Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:13 +0000 http://raewhitlock.com/2008/02/10/%cf%80%cf%81%ce%b5%cf%83%ce%b2%cf%8d%cf%84%ce%b5%cf%81%ce%bf%cf%82/#comment-2049 Congrats, Rae! :) Congrats, Rae! :)

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