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	<title>Comments on: A Baptist Stuck in a Presbyterian &#8220;Body&#8221;?</title>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://raewhitlock.com/2006/01/29/a-baptist-stuck-in-a-presbyterian-body/comment-page-1/#comment-5240</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post.  It is always good to remember that we belong to Him alone.  I once wanted to be &quot;Reformed&quot; (i.e. Dutch), or even Presbyterian.  No matter how hard I tried to push it aside I realized that the &quot;baby-sprinkling thing&quot; was so foundational to Presbyterian theology and practice and I would never be able to be a minister until I addressed the issue.  Many times I thought I had been convinced of &quot;baby-sprinkling&quot; but my conscience was never truly clear, and the Scripture repeatedly convicted me.

You say you &quot;remain teachable.&quot;  Then I suggest you read this new short essay entitled &quot;From Circumcision to Baptism,&quot; in order to get a better handle on the topic before you are faced with the practical challenges of ministry.  &quot;Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness&quot; (Jas 3:1).

Here is the link (wrapped):
http://www.baptisttheology.org/
documents/FromCircumcisiontoBaptism_001.pdf

&quot;My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me&quot; (1 Cor 4:4 NIV).

May the Lord make His face shine upon you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post.  It is always good to remember that we belong to Him alone.  I once wanted to be &#8220;Reformed&#8221; (i.e. Dutch), or even Presbyterian.  No matter how hard I tried to push it aside I realized that the &#8220;baby-sprinkling thing&#8221; was so foundational to Presbyterian theology and practice and I would never be able to be a minister until I addressed the issue.  Many times I thought I had been convinced of &#8220;baby-sprinkling&#8221; but my conscience was never truly clear, and the Scripture repeatedly convicted me.</p>
<p>You say you &#8220;remain teachable.&#8221;  Then I suggest you read this new short essay entitled &#8220;From Circumcision to Baptism,&#8221; in order to get a better handle on the topic before you are faced with the practical challenges of ministry.  &#8220;Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness&#8221; (Jas 3:1).</p>
<p>Here is the link (wrapped):<br />
<a href="http://www.baptisttheology.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.baptisttheology.org/</a><br />
documents/FromCircumcisiontoBaptism_001.pdf</p>
<p>&#8220;My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me&#8221; (1 Cor 4:4 NIV).</p>
<p>May the Lord make His face shine upon you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rae</title>
		<link>http://raewhitlock.com/2006/01/29/a-baptist-stuck-in-a-presbyterian-body/comment-page-1/#comment-5239</link>
		<dc:creator>Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 03:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words, Jeff.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Singfiel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Singfiel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2006 07:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I CMA missionary I can tell you that we are definitely a mixed bag.  I know CMA pastors who are aggresively Calvinistic, and others who don&#039;t even understand the issues.  We&#039;ve always tried to be a &quot;big tent&quot; movement and, in fact, one of my favorite A.B. Simpson quote is, &quot;We are not a denomination nor will we ever be a denomination.&quot;  So much for founder&#039;s intent.
Good luck on your journey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I CMA missionary I can tell you that we are definitely a mixed bag.  I know CMA pastors who are aggresively Calvinistic, and others who don&#8217;t even understand the issues.  We&#8217;ve always tried to be a &#8220;big tent&#8221; movement and, in fact, one of my favorite A.B. Simpson quote is, &#8220;We are not a denomination nor will we ever be a denomination.&#8221;  So much for founder&#8217;s intent.<br />
Good luck on your journey!</p>
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		<title>By: Rae</title>
		<link>http://raewhitlock.com/2006/01/29/a-baptist-stuck-in-a-presbyterian-body/comment-page-1/#comment-5237</link>
		<dc:creator>Rae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 21:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ve noticed that the Methodist/Wesleyan/Nazarene-type often end up in C&amp;MA churches somewhere down the road.  It might be because the C&amp;MA is often identified as a &quot;Holiness&quot; movement with some common roots w/ Wesleyanism.  It&#039;s just hard to pigeonhole, because it shares roots w/ Presbyterianism and Pentecostalism as well.  It&#039;s just all over the map!

I guess the one truly distinctive thing about the C&amp;MA is that it&#039;s very staunchly premillenial in its eschatology.  Affirmation of premillenialism is actually a requirement for membership in a C&amp;MA church (and oddly enough, baptism isn&#039;t).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve noticed that the Methodist/Wesleyan/Nazarene-type often end up in C&amp;MA churches somewhere down the road.  It might be because the C&amp;MA is often identified as a &#8220;Holiness&#8221; movement with some common roots w/ Wesleyanism.  It&#8217;s just hard to pigeonhole, because it shares roots w/ Presbyterianism and Pentecostalism as well.  It&#8217;s just all over the map!</p>
<p>I guess the one truly distinctive thing about the C&amp;MA is that it&#8217;s very staunchly premillenial in its eschatology.  Affirmation of premillenialism is actually a requirement for membership in a C&amp;MA church (and oddly enough, baptism isn&#8217;t).</p>
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		<title>By: Geof F. Morris</title>
		<link>http://raewhitlock.com/2006/01/29/a-baptist-stuck-in-a-presbyterian-body/comment-page-1/#comment-5236</link>
		<dc:creator>Geof F. Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always interesting for me to read things like this from other folks, because while I&#039;ve questioned a lot of Methodism, I&#039;ve always come back.  [Aren&#039;t there a lot of Methodist/Wesleyan type folks in the C&amp;MA movement, Rae?  Seems like I remember a number of backers of the stuff C&amp;MA did in China being nominal Methodists.  Not that it matters much, I don&#039;t guess.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always interesting for me to read things like this from other folks, because while I&#8217;ve questioned a lot of Methodism, I&#8217;ve always come back.  [Aren't there a lot of Methodist/Wesleyan type folks in the C&amp;MA movement, Rae?  Seems like I remember a number of backers of the stuff C&amp;MA did in China being nominal Methodists.  Not that it matters much, I don't guess.]</p>
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		<title>By: BlogWatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlogWatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Faith Story&lt;/strong&gt;

Not another blog highlights the personal faith journey of the author....</description>
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<p>Not another blog highlights the personal faith journey of the author&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Seitler</title>
		<link>http://raewhitlock.com/2006/01/29/a-baptist-stuck-in-a-presbyterian-body/comment-page-1/#comment-5234</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Seitler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that&#039;s a pretty good way to put things. :)

&lt;em&gt;&quot;or qualifying everything with &#039;but I dunno about the whole baby-sprinkling thing&#039;.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s so encouraging to know I&#039;m not the only one who&#039;s ever been in that position! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that&#8217;s a pretty good way to put things. <img src='http://raewhitlock.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>&#8220;or qualifying everything with &#8216;but I dunno about the whole baby-sprinkling thing&#8217;.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s so encouraging to know I&#8217;m not the only one who&#8217;s ever been in that position! <img src='http://raewhitlock.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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